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标题: 寻求邮件被网易当451拒绝,hotmail,yahoo总是进入垃圾邮件解决办法或原因? [打印本页]

作者: menuasp    时间: 2009-12-7 22:42
标题: 寻求邮件被网易当451拒绝,hotmail,yahoo总是进入垃圾邮件解决办法或原因?
很抱歉又发一遍,因为我没找到可以转移话题版块的功能
原来的帖子 http://bbs.5dmail.net/thread-186771-1-1.html

问题好像很复杂,因为目前新浪,搜狐及其他邮箱服务商都是正常投递成功,但在网易总是提示451 dt:spm而拒绝,服务器IP并没有反向解析,我查看了网易的邮件政策,除了大概违反不禁用户同意而发送外并没有任何其它问题,另外一个就是没创建反向解析。

目前已经向yahoo,hotmail申请了垃圾邮件的反馈并等待结果中,但IP没有做反向解析,是否会有效果?另外如果为了避免hotmail垃圾邮件,加入附件发送过多会不会被直接列入黑名单?

另外服务器IP并没有被列入任何垃圾邮件的名单中。

有知道的朋友帮忙给年提示或方案。不胜感谢


[ 本帖最后由 menuasp 于 2009-12-7 22:44 编辑 ]
作者: menuasp    时间: 2009-12-8 00:03
标题: hotmail回复的邮件
Hello,

This is Steve from the Windows Live Hotmail Domain Support Team.

Your IP (222.73.205.xx) was blocked by Windows Live Hotmail because the majority of all the email that you send to Hotmail has been judged to be spam by Windows Live Hotmail's internal filtering system. We have conducted an investigation into the emails originating from your IP space and we have implemented a fix for your deliverability problem. This fix may take 24 - 48 hours to replicate completely throughout our system.  

Please note that lifting the block does not guarantee that your email will be delivered to a user's inbox. However, enrollment in our JMR program and having your IPs registered with Sender ID will help with your mail delivery to your recipient's inbox, thereby improving your IP's reputation as well.

. Please ensure that you have published SPF records for your sending domains and register with Sender ID. You can find additional information and submit your domain for inclusion into the Sender ID program at http://www.microsoft.com/senderID. Please note that technical standards (RFC 4408) discourage use of "ptr" for performance and reliability reasons.

. Monitor user complaints. Hotmail also has a sender complaint feedback loop program called the Junk Email Reporting Program (JMRP). Enrollment in this free program will benefit you as a sender as it will keep your email lists updated and populated with interested Windows Live Hotmail Customers. This program will help you to remove those Windows Live Hotmail Customers who do not want to receive emails from your company. If you are interested in joining this program, please visit https://support.msn.com/eform.as ... mrpp&ct=eformts

. Hotmail has created the Smart Network Data Services program. This is a service that helps legitimate email senders work with their customers and partners to reduce spam originating from their IP. To register, please go to http://postmaster.msn.com/snds/. This program allows a sender to monitor the 'health' of their IPs.  

While using the SNDS tool, enrollment in the JMRP or having your IPs registered with Sender ID will not allow emails from your mail servers to bypass our filters, these are in place to help legitimate companies deliver their emails to Hotmail Customers.

. SenderScore Certified Mail Program. Many legitimate mailers and marketers have qualified and joined this "white listing" program to improve mail deliverability and decrease email from being filtered to the Junk E-mail Folder. Sender Score is a third party program administered by Return Path. Sender Score (www.senderscorecertified.com) is the only white listing service to which we subscribe.

After you have taken steps to enroll in the JMRP and Sender ID, please contact us again and we will further investigate the issue. Please include the SRX number you were given when beginning your JMRP enrollment.

The troubleshooting steps in this email are recommendations only. Microsoft makes no guarantees that following these steps will guarantee deliverability to MSN, Windows Live Hotmail, or Live.com customers.  


Best Regards,

申请加入了(JMRP)但这里有个疑问,如何加入SNDS,我发现难道要跟ISP运营商有关系的?这个搞不懂。
After you have taken steps to enroll in the JMRP and Sender ID, please contact us again and we will further investigate the issue. Please include the SRX number you were given when beginning your JMRP enrollment.
作者: andrewcao    时间: 2009-12-8 08:56
我也想知道 我们公司的邮件服务器也是这样 无法成功发送邮件到网易。。 sina QQ 都没问题。。 网易发邮件进来是可以的。。。

期待中。。。
作者: 杨仔    时间: 2009-12-8 09:22
首先,贵司是否曾经试用过网易企业邮箱,如果试用过,联系网易把你在他们域中的信息删除即可。因为如果曾经用过网易的企业邮箱的话,给网易发信,会先在网易的域中寻找信息,有信息,但是没有邮件地址就会出现退信。
其次,贵司的邮箱是否向网易的邮箱(不管是免费还是收费)发送了大量的垃圾邮件,或者群发邮件,导致IP被屏蔽拒收。
请核实。
作者: menuasp    时间: 2009-12-8 09:50
原帖由 杨仔 于 2009-12-8 09:22 发表
首先,贵司是否曾经试用过网易企业邮箱,如果试用过,联系网易把你在他们域中的信息删除即可。因为如果曾经用过网易的企业邮箱的话,给网易发信,会先在网易的域中寻找信息,有信息,但是没有邮件地址就会出现退信。 ...


先感谢你的回复。我们公司没有使用过网易企业邮箱,如何能确认我使用的域。另外你提到的发送大量的垃圾邮件,我们公司大概偶尔一个月有一次或二次,向网易发送的邮件量控制在每天400-500左右,每次迟续时间大概一星期左右。平均2.5分钟一封,我观测下来,除了大概刚开始有三封成功之后,后面的邮件基本出现这个问题。

刚收到hotmail回复加入JMR的信息,
We are pleased to inform you that www.com.cn has passed the initial qualifications for enrollment into the JMR Partner Program. However, we need a confirmation from China Telecom that you have exclusive sending rights to the IP address 222.73.205.102. This will not delay your enrollment process.  As soon as we receive their confirmation e-mail, we will immediately add the IP to your feedback loop.


An e-mail directly sent to JMRP@css.one.microsoft.com from China Telecom is sufficient. Please advise them to use SRX1119132646ID as the e-mail subject for easy tracking.



它提示需要我中国电信确认,请问大家这个需要电信如何确认的?

作者: liuzuen    时间: 2009-12-8 16:25
出现451错误,如果你的SMTP 发送服务器的IP没有做SPF记录,或者是对方服务器所查询的SPF记录时,查询记录有误。
作者: neil.fu    时间: 2009-12-9 11:45
是群发吗?如果不是群发就不会出现大多运营商都拒绝您的邮件的
作者: menuasp    时间: 2009-12-11 12:14
很背的说。因为这几天机房关闭,申请加入hotmail的JMRP结果看不出效果如何,163好像成功率比以前高一点点。但时间一长还是被列入451错误,我观察下来好像跟mx的服务也有点关系。
作者: eggegg    时间: 2010-1-17 14:11
还要好好研究研究~~
作者: 钉子    时间: 2010-1-18 17:14
各家运营商对垃圾邮件行为的判断和过滤方式不一样,所以如果你是群发,最好交给专业公司吧。自己搞太累了。一堆服务器的运营成本也很高。
作者: kevin_zhouwei    时间: 2010-1-19 15:56
我差不多两年时间没在这个论坛留言了...钉版还在一如既往的做这些工作,佩服佩服..
作者: 钉子    时间: 2010-2-2 18:13
标题: 回复 11楼 kevin_zhouwei 的帖子
呵呵。贵在坚持。有空多回来看看。帮帮人。




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